Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Phone Interview About Noble

Phone interview with Dick, from Dicks Country Store in Churubusco NY.

Store is located within Noble Wind Farm on Route 11.


(Responses not word for word, unless quoted)

Q-What were the largest outcry's from the public against the wind farms before they were put up?
A-Many issues were addressed including noise, bird deaths, visual appearance and the change of the landscape. " The only two legitimate complaints were the visual change of the landscape and the noise, which is very, very, very minimal. There are 4 turbines directly around the store and we never hear them from inside.""The bird deaths concern was put out after the first year when they found only a couple dead birds under the turbines throughout the whole year."

Q-Since the wind farm has been put in, has the local support for wind power gained strength or lost strength?
A-The support has gained since, as no real issues have arisen. "Our town had virtually no industry before this, and while they were being built many jobs were created, and now many land owners are better off and taxes are lower in the town." The town is about 700 people, and only 8-10 were opposing and bringing up concerns. "Those 8-10 people are still opposed, but it seems that everyone who was on the fence about the issue and just let it happen, now support the farm fully."

Q-Has there been any major issues as far as safety or wildlife disturbances?
A-No real issues have come up, other than a turbine catching fire in January. "The turbine fire was later found to be an electrical fire due to improper wiring, and had nothing to do with the design of the turbine." The turbines don't seem to effect wildlife, and in some cases encourage wildlife. "I have a few turbines on my property, and I constantly see deer eating the clover that Noble seeded the roadsides and areas around the turbines with. Usually I see the deer directly under the turbines, it doesn't seem to bother them one bit"



Monday, April 23, 2012

Interview Q and A's

David Hallquist


CEO of Vermont Electric Cooperative
VELCO Board member
Renewable Energy of North America board member
Principal at Stowe Consulting Company
Mohawk Valley Community College



Q: What was the largest hurdle to get over, as far as permits, laws and zoning?
A: Public service board approval – getting water resources. 

Q: Was the opposition from the public mostly due to consideration of wildlife/environment, noise/sight problems or safety concerns?
A:
Noise and aesthetics—50/50. Every single electric source has issues, however wind has the most potential.

Q: Has there been any major issues yet? (safety concerns, reports of wildlife problems...etc)
A:
Safety is our biggest concern. Hauling the equipment can be dangerous. 2 weeks ago a man was injured hauling heavy equipment and is still in a coma.

Q: Has the support for wind power gained strength or lost strength in the region since the wind farms have been built?
A:
Lost strength. Public support dropped from 80% to 70%
In reality, it’s easy for people to say they support it until it actually shows up. Then they question if it is worth it.

Willem Post
Founding member of Coalition for Energy Solutions
Consulting Engineer and Project Manager
BSME New Jersey Institute of Technology
MSME Rensselear Polytechnic Institute
MBA, P.E. University of Connecticut
Focus: Master Plans and Case Studies

VERY interesting conversation with Willem Post who knows just about everything there is to know about wind energy around the world (specifically in Europe).

Focuses on Master plans and studies for past 10-15 years of his career.
-       Helped design UVMs mater plan for the steam and water pressure systems.
-       He talked a lot about wind energy in Europe (Norway, Denmark, Sweden tradeoffs)

·      Asked him the most important message to convey to class: “I think New England should just forget about wind”
o   Midwestern prairie states have tremendous wind power opportunities and that’s where we should utilize wind energy
o   He compared Midwestern wind capacity to that of Saudi Arabia’s oil capacity
·      Biggest issue surrounding wind energy is noise
o   In Willem’s article on Lowell Wind Farm in July 2011 he states:
·      infrasound consists of air pressure pulsations; not audible, but felt; usually not measured by acoustics engineers; and more or less ignored by state regulators
·      People have been known to get sick from the infrasound that the turbines emit
o   Infrasound was used in the war to torture people
o   He met a farming family in Austria that lives less than a mile away from a wind farm and after a while the chickens started laying eggs without yolks
·      Needless to say, noise has a huge impact on the community and environment

Q: Adverse effects of Lowell wind project?
A: Environmental degradation. Preserving the Lowell mountain environment is very important.

Q: What is Vermont’s energy potential?
A: Vermont is not good for solar. There is decent wind on the ridge lines and better winds offshore as well, but offshore is very expensive.
àKansas has the best wind energy potential—maintence is low cost and there is a tremendous wind capacity
àSaudi Arabia of wind = Midwestern prarie states à evilvalent of Saudi oil
àMaintence of operation for Kansas wind farm = 1, VT ridgeline = 2
àOperation of maintenance + initial capital cost > energy actually produced in Vermont. We are spending unnecessary capital

cap in Kilowatt x 8760 x capital factor = kilowatt hours
*equation is critical to know

Q: When are winds strongest in Vermont?
A: wind is stronger at night
spring & fall = moderate wind
winter = strongest winds at night 
summer = weakest winds 
 Spring and fall intermediate

denmark sends their wind to Norway and Sweden
these plants close water valves and absorb surges of wind
½ is consumed in Denmark and ½ is exported
Sweden and Norway have more storage capacity than Denmark….they don’t have to use their own water
to run hydroplants

Germany is going to shut down all of their nuclear reactors by 2023.

Q: What do you think should be the most important takeaway from my presentation?
A: I think new England should forget about wind.
Q: Why?
A: noisy, visually offensive, destroys ridgelines
people get sick, low frequency noise /infrasound à used in the war to torture people
In Austria, I met a farm family that lives within a mile from a wind farm and eventually their chickens were laying eggs without yolks. 











Interview with Willem Post

Willem Post just emailed me a bunch of his articles on various energy issues and this one about Lowell is great. Take a look:
http://theenergycollective.com/willem-post/61309/lowell-mountain-wind-turbine-facility-vermont

Tuesday, April 17, 2012

Details of the Wind Farm: Capacity

The Kingdom Community wind farm in Lowell proposed by Green Mountain Power will be 21 wind turbines, each with a generating capacity of 3 MW, for a total of 63 MW. The farm will be on top of a 3.5 mile stretch of a 2600 ft ridge line, and according to this piece, http://theenergycollective.com/willem-post/61309/lowell-mountain-wind-turbine-facility-vermont, will generate the equivalent of just under 3% Vermont's annual consumption.

According to Vestas, wind energy costs (per MW) between $1.3 and $1.5 million, so the Lowell project will cost between $81.9 and $94.5 million, which appears to be significantly less than what was mentioned in this piece, which is a by man who seems to be against the wind farm: http://theenergycollective.com/willem-post/61309/lowell-mountain-wind-turbine-facility-vermont
He says the wind farm will cost $157.5 million, or $2.5 million per MW.

With regard to the wind turbines being noisy, interestingly, Vestas, the Danish company that designs and sells the wind turbines that GMP has bought for Lowell, actually have put some special software in their 3MW turbines that they call 'noise modes', and that can lessen the noise of these, (whilst sacrificing some power generation, of course). Read the description: "The V90-3MW can be specified with one of five different 'noise modes'. Each mode is set in the turbine software as part of the installation, although may be changed to another mode later. Each different noise mode implies a different power curve, so that for quieter operation, some energy yield is sacrificed. Noise mitigation is managed by adjustments to the blade pitch angle." -Wikipedia page of for Vestas 3MW.

VPIRG made an info sheet about Wind farms in VT and especially Lowell: http://www.vpirg.org/files/windfactsheet.pdf
This is perhaps biased towards the wind farm but sheds a certain light on the health studies done on "Wind turbine syndrome."

Wind Map

An awesome wind map of the US... could be used as an attention-grabbing introduction for our presentation.

http://hint.fm/wind/

Thursday, April 12, 2012

No response from Noble..

Hey guys, I havent heard anything from the people I emailed from Noble. I found their website and a phone number right to there headquarters in the town next to my land. I will call this number tomorrow, hopefully get an interview done.

Meanwhile, I found this to look at. http://www.noblepower.com/faqs/index.html  Its a page with questions, myths and facts about their wind farms.

Ryan

The Map of the Lowell Mountains ridge line.
(Not 100% to scale)